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Post by angelina on Sept 19, 2006 4:57:01 GMT 1
>:(WHY? OH WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? They made that mole Natalie a CSI? POURQUOI? The lady is a mole! and then she has the nerve to be offended when Wolfe doesn't like the fact that she is a CSI and says its "low" to refer to her ex-husband. Well its not its all she deserves! And another thing I ove Horatio but does anyone else find him kinda jerky and hypocritical I mean he stabs Rizo or whatever his name is then tells Ray that if he kills this dude there is no going back. All I can think of is "Dude didn't you just kill someone?" Anywho other than that and the fact that they need to show alot more Calleigh and Ryan, I really liked the episode. It was pretty cool.
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Post by calleigh on Sept 19, 2006 5:09:15 GMT 1
Well Rizo did shoot first. So Horatio had no choice. I don't like Natalia at all. How could they make her a CSI? They should send her packing...
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ivycolt
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Post by ivycolt on Sept 19, 2006 12:14:24 GMT 1
Oh my god! I about flipped when I saw that Natalie was a CSI. I don't want her to be. LOL She is the mole and then on her first case she totally screwed up. I think Calleigh did a great job as leader though. I am glad Horatio killed Rizo but I think it was all over too quick. I mean in one episode they did too much. One minute they were in Rio and in like a second they were back in Miami. It was all solved so fast. Plus it didn't really show what happened to Ray Jr. It never talked about him getting the heroine out of his body or anytyhing. LOL It was a good episode but I think they could have done more. And again I hate that Natalia is a CSI.
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Fabian
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Post by Fabian on Sept 19, 2006 21:52:47 GMT 1
I can't say that I found this episode good or bad.
Ryan was kind of hypocrite towards Natalia, since he is the king of screwing up. But when he said to her: 'Not everyone is an ass like your husband!', I had something like: 'ha, in your face', towards Natalia, muhaha.
It was great to see Yelina again. Let her be there every episode!
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Ophelia
Faith isn't easy to hold onto when the world is so cruel....
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Post by Ophelia on Dec 20, 2006 9:58:20 GMT 1
this isnt the first time horatio has killed someone- he probably understands how it has changed him and doesnt want ray to have to go through all the transformations he did- horatio is just trying to protect his nephew from becoming as detached as he has had to become when it comes to taking human life.
i liked natalia in this episode- remember, she was just doing a job when she was reporting to her superiors- when you are assigned a post by the government, how do you turn it down without risking your career? she did what she had to and it seems that calleigh and horatio understood that when the kept her on the crew. horatio sees the best in people- we know that from how understanding he was when suzie came to him for help with turning her life around. he could have just shoved her away for her past and her relations with ray sr., but instead he saw the potential for change and helped her out. i think this is how he relates to natalia as well- he saw the potential she had in the crime lab and put in a good word for her.
ryan is young, he makes mistakes often and he resents natalia quite a bit- he isn't fond of her early on and he is a rather judgemental person all around- he is confrontational and a bit harsh. i think what he said to natalia was a bit unfair- she's trying to work around something that it takes many many years for some women to work through. abuse isn't just something you 'get over' and it isn't just something that you can push aside. it affects how you relate to men in general when you are abused by a man- it affects how you can trust. the fact that she can trust erik, ryan, and horatio at all is a big step for her. trust me on this- my father was emotionally abusive to my mother and always passed me over in favour of my mother- his broken promises follow me- i didn't date until college and my fiance has to watch what he does very carefully and understand that when he brings something up that brings back a memory, he has to tread very carefully and help me to work through it, let me cry, let me get angry, and figure out how to help me through it. i didn't have to go through anything close to what natalia did- i can't imagine having to deal with physical abuse- if this scarred me like it did, i can't comprehend what women who deal with physical abuse have to overcome in order to trust. all that in light, i think ryan was way out of line when he brought that up- he was being insensitive and an arse- she's bound to have some issues once and a while and he has to figure out how to deal with that in a way that shows compassion.
i like her, i understand a little of her, and i think that she needs more friends like horatio and calleigh who are willing to give her a chance.
cheers- ~ophelia.
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